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Are we a club?
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Are we a car club?
Ya, I thought so!
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No, we're just a website that hosts like minded people.
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Post Post subject: Re: Are we a club?
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 08:23 AM
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The reason why I posed this question is because there seems to be two factions of clients who use the AZBAJA site. There are those who would like a car club, have meetings and events and those who like conversing with other like mined people from the comfort of home. This rift seems to have caused some frustrations for some people on both sides and I wanted to have a discussion on the topic.

Through the AZBAJA site I have been able to share knowledge, thoughts and ideas. I have made new friends and have coordinated and participated in many fun activities, as have many of you. I enjoy the site because we allow people to ask any question or state their opinion without harassment or teasing. (With the exception of good natured teasing between friends) Even in our "mudslinging" section, we allow people to state their own frustrations, personal and political. We have kept the petty arguing and name calling out. We have encouraged one another to be helpful and we treat each other with respect.

As one of the people who wants to be part of a car club, I understand the frustrations of trying to get people together who have different schedules and motivations. For me it is frustrating to have only a few show at an event or to have people define us as not really a club.

I understand that many of us have schedules That don't allow us to participate as much as we would like and that some of us don't wish to meet up. I also understand that some of us need time (and more importantly money) to get our projects together. I understand that many of us enjoy login on to a forum board to kill some time or to ask a question.

I think that both sides are OK. They are both right and I'm not asking you to pick a side if you don't want to. I believe that because of how we interact with one another, that both factions can coexist under the AZBAJA banner. I believe that we should use AZBAJA for what we want. I think that if you want to participate in club activities, you are more than welcome! If you can only hangout once in a blue moon, than we will be glad to have you! If you want to logon to the forum for information and entertainment, go right ahead!

It is very frustrating (and costly) to feel like only a few of us are trying to organize gatherings and events. I would like to add a more organized club aspect to AZBAJA, one where the people in charge are as active as its members. I also believe that we NEED to hold regular meetings.

I'm not here to lead a mutiny. I believe that Eric has done a wonderful job keeping the site running and updated. He as spent countless hours and a lot of his money, ensuring that we have a place to congregate; and for that I thank him.

I would like to hear what you have to say on the subject. I just want to remind you that this is a debate and not a "pissin' contest". Please continue to be courteous to one another.

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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 09:22 AM
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Paid my dues,,,still no voting site. The link comes up invalid.

Fixed, You need to tell me who you are. We have more people than listed that have paid the dues but , if I do not know your screen name I can not up date you Smile


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I will help fund events you guys have in Phoenix or Tucson.


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Post Post subject: Re: Are we a club?
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 04:51 PM
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As far as setting things up and showing up is concerned. Most of us work in places where we cannot set our own schedule, and dont regularly get weekends off. Some of us have wives that dont agree with our hobbys, that dont like to play in the dirt.


Can anyone here name any other BAJA club in the Phx area?
The only one I have heard of is the brotherhood and have never seen one of their cars or logos,and definetly no web site!

Most good clubs have one good show up a year and everything else is hit and miss. AZBAJA is only what, a year old? Givin time it will improve and has allready grown.

I for one am proud to be An AZBAJA member even if my baja is in Vegas and I never seem to make it to any of the events.


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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 06:06 PM
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I agree with DirtJunkie. I doubt that I will ever make a meeting or event, but love what you guys offer and feel that I know some of you and I don’t even have a baja. AZBaja is my main source for information and how to.

As soon as I get my car back on the road, I will be flying the colors in Tajas.

From someone who can't help much more that paying dues, THANKS!


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It is very appreciated of the participation from ALL members WORLD wide! Very Happy

associating web sites:

www.bajaclub.co.uk (our brothers and siters in great Britain ans Europe!)

www.nmsandrails.com (empowered by a member of our miltary. posts when he can on here. have great guys in Albequerque too! )

www.chirco.com (monetary donations, dang they're great!! Very Happy thx DON!!!)

and more!

here, in the valley of the sun, where AZBAJA started from the desert dust, I would hope members would to try and sneek a meeting or event in twice a year. if your spouse has no care or knowlage of the baja scene, take an extended trip to "home depot" if ya know what I mean Wink stop in for 10 minutes and skeedadle.

for our members through out the USA and the world, "THANK YOU" for supporting our cause. I realize that meetings may not be in the near future for you. thats ok. we have offered the use of the AZBAJA logo and club as a foundation for a new local chapter in your neck of the woods.

if anyone has an idea for a gathering (e.g. off roading, bbq, chat, etc) please post em in the "events " area for all to see. I like to post 4 weeks or more in advance to allow for schedule changes or $$ accumilation for parts/ fuel , or what ever is needed. there is an events calandar some where over
< there to post your events on as well.


in the past , we have had night runs in the summer heat, they were very fun and educational (how not to break spindles, how not to "taco" steel wheels, and more! Very Happy )

I would be up for it this season. I am currently broke, have a loaner engine from a great guy, but will limp a trail on three wheels and 2 cyl's just to have fun!!!!! Shocked Very Happy Twisted Evil

I didnt mean to turn this to a pissin contest, but some peoples ideas are not what others agree with. had to get out my side wether it pissed ya off or not.

besides, its better to be pissed off , than pissed on!!! Laughing

(unless your into ...............................that ^ )

if Eric wants to stay behind the scenes and master the web site, so be it. the work involved is appreciated. we need to elect a staff that will help to, and work to keep, club events operating on a regular basis. it can be every 3 months for all I care. A club is worthless if you never meet and great the other members. mis-understandings do not happen when you can see the person in front of you. I like to jam sarcasim down throats of individuals as I see fit, willing or not. you wouldnt know it from my postings here....those who see me face to face now and again realize it and laugh...


thank you for the monolouge, I will stand aside and let you absorb it for a while.


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Post Post subject: Re: Are we a club?
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BBQs & trail runs are always BIG fun. Maybe by the time the weather cools, my Baja will be trail ready. I'm game! Maybe if we call it a "gang", we can get some under-cover cops to spring for the adult beverages. I vote CLUB!


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bajafun wrote:
I would hope members would to try and sneek a meeting or event in twice a year. of thif your spouse has no care or knowlage e baja scene, take an extended trip to "home depot" if ya know what I mean Wink stop in for 10 minutes and skeedadle.

Hey, I resemble that remark!! Laughing

And I made it to the pizza night, met Caversmoon, Mykul, and a couple other people who's names escape me currently. (too many times getting my bell rung?? Confused ) I just had to leave early.


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YES BUT ARE YOU GOING TO BE THERE ON THE 28TH??


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I am planing on being there with my family in tow. The kids really like the train ride. My wife says that I am a big kid to.

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WE ALL ARE!!


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Kevin
Please check your last post.
I found a few mis-spelled words in it.
Please repost after errors have been fixed.


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Kevin
Please check your last post.
I found a few mis-spelled words in it.
Please repost after errors have been fixed.

well garsh dang it! yuz kaught mee!!!

smell check doesnt seam to wurc veel hear.... Very Happy


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AFTER A FEW KIND WORDS, WE ARE WELL ON OUR WAY TO BEING A CLUB,


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